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Title: BW - updates???
Post by: THG on 26 May 2009, 12:16
Guess everyone there has been too busy enjoying the fine weather to make any results known!!  Did find out Jo Richards won the Burton Cup - well done with the new design.  Looked on the TBYC site and not found any results there either.
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Fran G (Guest) on 26 May 2009, 01:20
I can tell you a few bits:-
 
Saturday - Very light winds.  Jo and Sophie scored 1,2.  Tom and Liz were lying second, not sure of scores.  Antony and Jo didn't have a good day and nor did Jonno and Charlotte.  (Clues here to who I have spoken to).
 
Sunday - Excellent conditions - quote from Antony so probably a force 3 and sunny.  Jo and Sophie won both races.  Antony and Jo second in both.  Don't know much else but at the end of Sunday Jo and Sophie clearly winning, from Tom with 12 points.
 
Monday - Burton Cup, very windy.  Jo and Sophie overtook Tom and Liz on the final reach to win.  Antony and Jo third.
 
Today - don't know.
 
Apologies for not knowing any admirals cup or vintage news.
 
Fran G
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: RickP (Guest) on 26 May 2009, 04:46
So with today to go Jo & Sophie have scored 1,2,1,1,1 is that correct?
Fantastic performance in their new boat ...
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: FuzzyDuck on 26 May 2009, 08:30
Today was very windy though dont know the numbers but 2 more masts went. Only 23 boats finished the last race.
Jo won both races today so only didn't win first race which went to Graham and Zoe.
2nd Tom & Liz
3rd Antony & Jo
4th Kevin & Jane
5th Jon & Char
I'm sure full results will be up soon
Simon
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: chopper on 26 May 2009, 08:41
Hope everyone enjoyed burton week I couldnt make it down in the end had too much to do hopefully get some opens in so i can meet you all
 
regards paul
 
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: MikeDay on 26 May 2009, 09:42
Just back - great event.  No-one has said here that we had 80 entries!!!  Jo and Sophie were terrific in all conditions. Oh, and we were one of the broken masts today ... it was windy.
Mike D
N3496
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Andy Hill on 26 May 2009, 10:14
Back from Thorpe Bay, we had a great weekend and thank you very much to everyone at the club and especially Kevin & Lesley; and all those from the association who made the event happen.
Andy:)
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Mike S (Guest) on 26 May 2009, 10:27
Also just back and can echo what Mike said (his was the most comprehensively broken mast by the way). I counted 3 other masts in 2 pieces. We broke the boom at the gooseneck and no doubt there were many more other casualties.
Although Burton Cup was very windy at the start it progressively dropped and the last beat was a slow F1/2. Today was just seriously windy.

Phil David won the AC overall and Jonathan Rubin won the vintage.
Overall it was great sailing with all possible conditions over the 4 days and everything else contributing to a great event - well organised, convenient location for a good proportion of the fleet, good RO, good club facilities, onsite camping, easy sail to race area...and the Red Arrows...twice. Roll on Weymouth and lets hope its a 4 day weekender again and we can muster 80 boats again.

Mike S
N3491
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: OMSC on 26 May 2009, 11:11
I thought it was 5 masts today, 3 masts yesterday, one boat holed on the road, a lot of carbon looking decidedly twisted.
 
the insurers must be very busy.  in the 80 boats there were 27 qualifying for AC, and either 7 or 8 vintage within that. and sunburn, lots of sunburn.
 
as a first time visitor to BW, along with a lot of others, I have to say the welcome was amazing, the shoreside very slick, rescue cover very professional (thanks for towing me in today guys) course setting was tricky in the first few days because of the fickle winds and spring tides, but todays courses were amazing. Above everything else, the sailors themselves were all so welcoming, and open with advice and historical trivia.  I met the guy who helped build my boat, several past owners who described exactly which bits they damaged and when, and more than enough people who were willing to help me set it up too.  The manners also extended to on the water in the mid to low fleet, and even extended to tips from the leaders as they lapped me in the Burton Cup on how to go quicker.
 
I cannot wait for the fotoboat pictures to come up, and to get to the next events.  Roll on next year's BW.
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Derek on 27 May 2009, 07:09
Any chance of an update on the "Burton Week" website or at least a link to the results. Perhaps if you didn't go, you don't deserve to share in the excitment?! Well done Jo and Sophie - that should stimulate some new boats then!
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Jeremy C on 27 May 2009, 07:57
I'll update the Burton week website as soon as I have the relevant information and/or links. But whilst I am here I wopuld like to echo just what a fantastic event it was, very well organised and run, superb and challenging sailing, sun, warm, wind.
Sorry t those who couldn't make it - it really was great and roll on next year!
 
Jeremy
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Mark Jardine on 27 May 2009, 08:21
Hi Jeremy and all

Please keep me posted at YachtsandYachting.com with the news - I've had tons of emails asking what happened and how come I haven't got the results up! So far I've only received a photo of Jo and Sophie after winning the Burton Cup.
Email any information you want published to mark at yachtsandyachting.com
Also a quick question, is the Burton Cup race regarded as the National Championship or the whole regatta?

Many thanks!
Mark
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: MikeDay on 27 May 2009, 08:51
Mark
 
The National Championship is the week as a whole - and the winner wins a wonderful old trophy called the Silver National.  The Burton Cup is our most prestigious race with lots of traditions attached.  Quite often, the Burton Cup winner doesn't win the champioship week, but no doubt about who's best this year ...
 
Mike D
N3496
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 27 May 2009, 10:22
I've always considered the Burton Winner to be National Champion myself...
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Chadders on 27 May 2009, 11:32
Correction to a statement above Jonathan did not win the vintage!  Tim Gatti and Yvonne McInnes won the overall vintage points (Shotgun Trophy presented by Paul Turner and Mike Nokes) Howard and Liz were 2nd and the first vintage in the Burton Cup was Howard Chadwick and Liz Wady with Tim and Yvonne second with a boat length between at the finish line.
I have done several Burtons since 1967 but not been since 1990 however this one was the best by far and am looking forward to next year at Weymouth.  Well done to all concerned for a great event on and off the water the 4 day format worked well and the numbers say it all in my view.  As an aside non of the vintage boats suffered damage due to the wild conditions as far as I am aware although Jonathan did spring a plank which he fixed with window sealant without the need for an insurance claim!  Paul Turner also needs a prize for his back flip from a high speed China Doll, very spectacular!  Howard C aka Chadders
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: tonyelgar on 27 May 2009, 01:35
Just to continue the praise this was my first burton week and, for a number of reasons, not the most successful week(end) sailing away I've had. Despite this i still thought it was an excellent event and a great venue and thanks to everyone who made it happen. I'm looking forward to it coming to my home patch of water next year, and it has done nothing but enthuse me to be more active with my 12 in the future.
 
Tony
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Pip on 27 May 2009, 02:05
Firstly - let me just add in my thanks to everyone involved. A wonderfully organised long weekend - both on and off the water.  There was definitely wind, water, pie and beer. And much more as well!
Also, I have a few photos from the Feeling Foolish party - perhaps Jeremy[/b] would like to upload them on to the Burton Week(end) website? Can I send them to you?
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Jeremy C on 27 May 2009, 02:43
Yes please Pip!
and if anyone else has pics or anything they would like added such as comments or stories of a race please feel free to mail them to me.
address: jeremy@designs42.net (mailto:jeremy@designs42.net)
 
jeremy
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Hannah Wilkinson on 27 May 2009, 03:34
Thank you everyone for making my first Burton week and first time crewing a National 12 so enjoyable....in fact first time crewing full stop! It was a great event and so inspiring to meet so many enthusiastic and talented sailors. I have been very encouraged by the whole thing...and I now know that 'hiking' doesn't always require a pair of hiking boots!!

Hannah
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Louisa on 27 May 2009, 04:09
Hello everyone,
Urgent...  Can you help me? - I would be very grateful if anyone can give me Sophie or Malcolm Mackley's email address or phone number.  I'd like to use a copy of the photo of Jo Richards and Sophie for a story I'm doing for Cowes Online about Burton Week.  Any help, and/or other photos can be emailed to:
louisa.mamakou@theknowledgezone.net
Many thanks.
Regards, Louisa Mamakou
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Louisa on 27 May 2009, 05:28
Many thanks to a justly proud dad, Malcolm Mackley, who has sent me some great pictures that I'll use for Cowes Online.
Best wishes to all,
Louisa
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Louisa on 27 May 2009, 06:31
Spreading the word - National 12s in the news on Cowes Online again:
http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml/story?story_id=6606;cp=0

From Louisa
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Tim Gatti on 27 May 2009, 10:27
Thanks for putting the record straight Howard.  I would just like to thank again the Burton teams at Thorpe Bay and in our own Class, for the magnificent four day event at Thorpe Bay which I think most would agree, exceeded all expectations. Tim
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Mark Jardine on 28 May 2009, 09:17
Hi Mike
Thanks for clarifying that the week is regarded as the nationals.
Are the results available anywhere yet?
Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Kevin on 28 May 2009, 10:16
Mark,
 
Have emailed you separately.
 
Everyone else, we are working on it.
 
Kevin
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: Alan & Helen (Guest) on 28 May 2009, 10:36
As non 12 sailors at Burton Week we would like to say a big thank you to everyone involved in putting this fantastic event together and to Antony and Nathan for organising/lending us a fast boat (currently for sale by the way!).  Think the format worked really well and it was great to see 80 boats on the water. 
Title: Re: BW - updates???
Post by: paul turner on 28 May 2009, 11:19
What a totally brilliant event! But sadly Dolly Daydream N2487 also has split planking (even before my death defying back somersault on Tuesday!) and so she is resting at Gerry Ledger's awaiting several repairs. Looks like Starfish N2020 will be appearing at Yorkshire Ouse this year!
Kevin & Lesley Iles plus TYBC justly got a huge amount of acklowledgement and thanks for the fabulous organisation of the Burton, but with a day off on the Sunday (following my visit to A&E on Saturday!) I had time to see just how much work Janet & Kevan Bloor plus Mike Brookman (ably supported by Mary) do behind the scenes; were it not for their fantastic efforts the Champs wouldn't have happended! Sincere thanks and respect to them.
Already looking forward to Weymouth (a long weekend PLEASE) next year - will try to get SHOTGUN N2359 servicable by then!
Paul :K)
PS When are we going back to Thorpe Bay? Please?