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ah but my crew weighs about half of what yours does - he's got 4 legs, fur and doesnt bark at all

did you get Carbon Copy from Force 4 Dinghy Centre ? i just remember seeign the pics of her sat on their showroom floor

Now that's a real possibility cos L&L was one of the places that i was looking at as a new home for (chilli) my new boat.  But the cost of membership and stuff is why she will end up in LSC - L&L is about £100 a year more than LSC and its only cos Express Dream got sold for a really really good price that a new boat was ever on the cards --- i sold Express Dream about 3 months ago on the condition that i got to finish the race series at FF
 
Also am not gunna turn up at L&L still working out how not to get wet either - i'd rather do that in the mersey where no ones watching lol
 
As for fulfilling my need for speed -- maybe but i've calmed down a lot from when i was younger - part of why my Int420 went was cos it just got boring chasing the speed figures (she's got a tacktick racemaster in her) all the time - no matter where we went so it'll be nice to work out how the technology works in the N12 and then learning how to make best use of the design. 
 
It'll prolly be more interesting as a result too cos there's few things that can be done differently and if i had about £35k then i'd do moulds and plugs based on those but there's some simple things and the boatyard reckon that they can pull them off
 
there's some work to be done with the centre of mass and the sails which i'm gunna experiment with.  like the centre board it's shape and adding weight to it and the sails cut from lighter materials and their shapes --- i think that this boat will be like my old Beiker III Int14 in terms of its development - the rest of the boat has gone in a similar way design wise minus a kite
If i go for a self fit out then it'll be a mix of harken and spinlock - the spinlock clutches for anything that needs releasing and the harken stuff cos it rarely goes wrong.
to say i was hooked after sailing the Feeling Foolish a while back is an understatement just wish she had an Asymmetric but then it wouldn't be an N12 if it did

Hi Pat   to attend the meets at the yorkshire dales is gunna require either a house move or my crew being really generous cos i got banned last year - too many points - speeding.
 
am looking forward to sailing her though in due course   got a list of stuff as long as my arm that i want too cos i might just get a shell and then fit it out myself and then add spars n sails  also don't think that she'll be ready for the open in september - thinking that it will probably be a freezer event that she goes to as the first one

yesterday (26th july) was the last race of the summer series - i know its only July but thats the way they work round here -- sad day
and last night after the racing had finished me and my crew took my Int420 Express Dream apart and parceled her up on her trailer ready for her new owner to collect her -- so now I'm left with an empty mooring that will very soon be filled with a Dead Cat Bounce N12
I spoke to Tom Stewart a few weeks ago and he basically sold the Dead Cat Bounce (this puddy didn't) N12 to me over the phone in less than 15minutes !!!!!! so I'm going to make contact and give my bank manager a heart attack when she finds out how much my new pride n joy is going to cost
here's to a winter and a lot of years in a DCB N12 i'm also going to be moving sailing clubs because Liverpool sailing club located at the back of Liverpool John Lennon Airport has far far better facilities than Fiddlers Ferry despite it being further away - it was swings and roundabouts tbh but being able to launch / recover at all tidal states (300yard concrete slip way) no matter whether its springs or neaps sold it to me
am also going to have my DCB delivered straight to the dinghy park too saves any messing about plus the sailing club is a warehouse so any work that i may need to do in time will done in comfy conditions
here's to a mega happy end of 2015 and beyond

for reefing i was taught at dinghy school (i've been rya level 5 dnighy for 20+years) we were taught to roll the main around the boom and then roll a sail bag in with it and use the drawcord of the sailbag shackled to the kicker -- not sure of the kicker set up you've got on your 12 but this is the way that it's practised by sailing schools
 
use www.pinbax.com for all your N12 needs - the N12 chairman is a director there so you'll get what you need without any hassle or needing to work things out
 
as for your first point - sorry but i haven't got a scooby on that one.
 
hope this helps

sorry Paul i got the same message when i tried it just
trust me though its there --- if you google fidlers feery sailing then it'll show you where it is cos there's maps and other info listed but i had to google it to get it -- not much use really is it
  i'll make a note a speak to them about --- thank you for pointing it out
 
today i went for a walk cos there's a Int420 regatta at Bala later this week so went and finished off wrapping "express dream" (don't ask - i didn't name her) up and sat watching the racing
 
3 Falcons - 2 Wayfarers - 1 GP14 out on the water today -- very high tide and it showed but wind strength of force 5 gusting 7 across most of the course saw a really good battle between a Falcon and a Wayfarer with the Falcon winning by half a boat length
 
the guys sailing the GP14 really really needed to go to dinghy school tbph - i mean you're supposed to sit out when she starts heeling not keep your bum on the seat and let everything go which is what they did - and they only just managed to be the other wayfarer which was being sailed single handed and with just a main up as well !!!!!! 
 
can't wait to get in the mix with this lot in N12   i have fun in my 420 in their fleet cos we run them ragged and we do extra distance cos of the handicap and experience levels plus my crew loves being out on the wire   gunna be a shame when we end up letting "express dream" go to her new home but "Chilli" will be making more than a few waves
 
Roll on wednesday and pre regatta shakedown time WooooHoooo   1/2mile reaches / runs and beats   bring a flask and sarnies cos you've time for them

exactly as per the title
 
maybe you've just given her a bath or you've been creative with a paintbrush or you've installed new rigging and given her some new clothes maybe you're restoring your N12
 
just tell us all about it
 
so today I went to Fiddlers Ferry Dinghy Sailing Club --- don't confuse it with the cruising club which is for "big" boats and I got all the info and had a right good laugh with the guys th at were there --- so it's gunna cost me £20 to join £70 annual membership and £36 for annual use of the dinghy park providing that i use my boat
 
how many clubs do you know where it's only gunna cost you £106 per annum incluing use of all facilities and boat storage ?? 
the other clubs I was looking at --- Leigh and Lowton £249 per annum inc. mooring
Liverpool sailing club £137 plus mooring
Blackpool light craft club £130 plus mooring costs if there's enough space
 
i'm sure that there are others but given that i have a Virgin Trains season ticket between Warrington and Lancaster was sort of limited by where i could and couldnt go --- FFSC is 40 minutes walk down the canal from my front door
 
so what did you do today ??

carbon copy is now up for sale with force 4 dinghy centre --- she's still got the yellow with black paintjob too
 
price wise i think it was about £2300 --- bit of a bargain really

there's a Liverpool Sailing Club a centre (more like multi million pound warehouse tbh) on Banks Lane in Liverpool at the back of Liverpool John Lennon airport that does absolutely everything water orientated   no N12's there that I've seen - there are a couple of Ent's and stuff - it's mainly geared towards the coaching side but has a really nice atmosphere --- I've been a few times but dunno if I'll end up there or not.
 
and if you're really lucky you'll get to sample the delights of a River Mersey Spring Tide which runs at 11knots   normal tide through there is 9knots although further down at Liverpool it's a more sedate 7knots   it's not for the faint hearted until you get used to the fact that it can be blowing a hoolie and you're still not making much progress I've seen boats launch from there on an incoming tide and 5 mintues later they are under widnes-runcorn bridge about 3 miles upstream
 
give the club secretary a shout --- lscsecretary@hotmail.com and they'll see you right   or have look at the website -- www.liverpoolsailingclub.org 
 
hope this helps

love the timber ones
i had a GP14 sail number 7056 -- grp hull and timber decks -- and i used to spend a good month of every year just stripping the varish and painting her ready for the start of the season -- sort of miss it in a way cos that was like the prelim to the icebreaker weekends that started the season for the club
 
good luck with the build and remember you're gunna be needing some really really good painting skills - every year

thank you andymck   that's pretty much what Tom said but with me being a serious lightweight at ish 10stone and 11stone wet through and crew being roughly the same.
 
the leaded centreboard gives a bigger wind range that you can sail in or at least that's what i found last time so if the dead cat bounce goes like stink now then it should be troubling my gps some more
 
my gps gets really worried when the wind picks up --- i've seen it registering over 30knots without crashing and burning

So Chadders it was you that gave the "green light" to a ridiculous spending spree that saw me fork out for all sorts of stuff that i thought "might" be important
plus the N12 club has got one outstanding salesman of a chairman -- took Tom quite a bit of effort to sell her to me to be honest cos there's a Feeling Foolish up for sale about 80 miles away in yorkshire but the new boat means that i put the control lines and cleats and toe straps and other goodeis where i want them instead of where someone else wants them
so it's looking like being a winter in the irish sea off blackpool somewhere not totally sure yet but given that i always take my 420 up there ready for the winter gales to start rolling along blackpools south shore it's gunna be interesting
 
was also thinking of getting a secong hull and putting a scaled down Int14 rig on it --- but hey that's just me - i made a full carbon 12ft skiff about 14years ago and that trashed by a sealion in the Dee estuary off Hilbre island

thank you Ed   am looking forward to meeting new people and sailing new places although where i live in the northwest there are soooo few N12's around that it's gunna be like it is now with my 420 -- no one to race against apart from the clock love teasing hte fireballs in decent conditions
 
so hoping that the N12 will trash a few fireballs upwind maybe a bit of an ask but hell it's gotta be tried
 
the first task will be to sort out the centreboard cos there really is far too much weight up top -- my old Int14 (had a bieker 3) ended up getting a dagger board with a lead core in the bottom of it -- thinking that this set up will go well in a 12 cos the lower centre of gravity will create more righting moment which should give an upwind advantage plus cos of the way the rules are regarding weights - it'll comply

"shades of grey" --- gotta be summat to do with her new sleek, curvacious body surely
good luck with the build oh and don't forget --- you've only got so many pages in your chequebook