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That sounds similar to what I came on my 12. There's a line running through the pole that's attached at the clew and runs over a block on the mast. Two lines are attached to this with one going to each side. It means that it can be pulled down from either side without leaning into the boat. Both sides need to be let off for the pole to fully retract.

Hi Jimmy, my boat has a split tail arrangement on the dngly pole pull down. The two tails are lead one to each side and are operated independently. This means that both need to be let off to allow the pole to be pulled up the mast.
Dan
N3342

I sail my 12 singlehanded from time to time. I have cleats for the jib sheet, and I tie the ends of the two sheets together, which means that I can get the opposite sheet from the side I am sitting on.

On my boat, the centreboard seems to have only two positions: fully up or fully down - down only because the rope handle interferes with the top of the case. If I try to set the centreboard partially down, it floats up
It is a carbon fibre board with presumably a foam core. There are pieces of thin plastic glued either side.
On other boats, with wooden boards, I have come across two methods of stopping board rising - adjustable pads either side or a piece of hose on the front edge that is compressed under a plate.
I have tried addiing a gash CD, but that seems to be too thick to fit into the current slot.
Can anyone suggest what I could use with my set up. I don't want to cut into the centreboard case if I can avoid it.
 
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dan

Just a reminder that Desborough SC will be holding its Annual N12 Open on May 10th on our delightful stretch of the Thames at Shepperton. First start is 11.00am - 3 races and 2 to count.
Details on how to find us are on our website www.desboroughsc.org
Dan
N3342
 

Just to add to my confusion, I have measured the current mast which is 5535 mm between the bands. The luff of my new sail is 5420 mm and foot 2210 mm.

Thanks Kevan,
From the measurment certificates of my boat (3342) and donor (3122)

    Boat No    3342     3122
    Luff           5429     5466
    Foot          2220     2182  
    1/4            2135     2031
    1/2            1675     1686
    3/4            1085     1125
    Main area  6.027    5.963
    Jib area     2.373    2.437
 
I shall ask P&B if they recorded the luff and foot measurements, and try to work out the actual measurementsat the weekend.

I acquired a set of unmeasured sails (approx 2010 construction) at the end of last year, and am now about to get a new mast made.
I would need to get both measured properly.
Does it make any difference whether I get the new mast the same as the old one?
What are the constraints? - I think that the sail luff and foot must fit inside the bands on mast and boom. How do the quarter mesurements affect this?
On the sail, can I just measure the distance from tack to clew and from head to tack to check actual size? Is it the straight line distance or does it folow the sail shape?
I have the measurement certificate values for my boat and the donor boat.
 
Would it make sense to make sure that the new mast fits the sail? or match the current certificate?

thanks
dan

I have now taken some pictures for the insurance. There is a distinct kink where it has been bent against the mast gate. I have been considering splashing out the extra for carbon if they agree to cover the cost of a metal one.
I mentioned this to one of the other 12 sailors at the club, who suggested sorting what I have cheaply and selling it on to fund a more modern design that already has carbon fittings and sails. On the other hands, would a carbon mast make the current boat (Baggy Trousers) easier to sell?
What would work well for inland river sailing seldom troubled by too much wind?

I have bought a (nearly) new set of rags - about three years old hardly used.

Yes, I like the elephant, but don't know any locally!
I'm tempted by Jonathan's suggestion
I have been in contact with the insurers, and also had a chat with Tom at P&B. Is it worth paying the extra for a carbon mast?

I have been to visit my boat and found, that after the floods, the mast has a considerable bend in it. It is quite neat; just a gentle curve towards the stern between the bottom of the sail track and where the mast comes through the gate. There doesn't appear to be any bend to the side.

The boat is a Baggy Trousers 3342.

The mast is alluminium, I think a Proctor section.

I have several options:

• do nothing and see what effect it has in practice.
  

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• try to straighten the mast - does anybody have any advice or suggestions?
  

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• buy a second hand replacement - what are the things I need to find out to check whether it is suitable for my boat?
  

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• use this as an excuse to get a new mast (I shall see what the insurers have to say about this) - who makes good masts, what would suit a baggy?
  

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If I get a replacement mast, will I need to get the boat remeasured?

thanks

dan
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Hi Kevan,
thanks for the clarification.
I suppose the only problem left would be if a sail with a much larger luff or foot was used as then it couldn't be adjusted sufficiently with outhaul or halyard/cunningham resulting in a full sail.
thanks
dan

Thanks, I had already looked at the rules and measurers documents, and was trying to work out how to apply this in practice.
The measurements marked on my certificate are what matters, and I can use any sails that are smaller than those.
Are the foot and luff lengths marked on the sail?

I'm thinking about buying sails for my 12.
Please can someone help me and explain the rules for changing sails between boats.